Knowing Therefore The Terror Of The Lord, We Persuade Men

Dear Shirley, Your message seems harsh and very pointed.Would you comment on this strategy for converting the loss? For instance, a homosexual that reads a sign that says, ‘God hates fags’ is less likely to repent and more likely to only turn fartheraway from God. I applaud your organizations passion and persistence, but even your website seems sarcastic and rude. I understand that your opposition treats you similarly, but if your assertions about their souls are correct, one would expect to see some sort of difference in behavior between them and those associated with your organization. What is the ultimate goal of your organizations crusade? What kind of ‘fruit’ do you see from your crusade? Your organization seems to use the Old Testament, almost exclusively, to give your arguments legitimacy. What are your beliefs on the new testament? It seems like Jesus is just being used as a means of exploiting his death to demand allegiance to your belief system. How is the level of sin determined? Your organization seems to concentrate on sexual sin more than any other. Failure to pay taxes is a sin according to Jesus, but I haven’t seen any protest of that. Along those lines, is ityour belief thata human can somehow live without sinning once he/she is converted? Please dont take my questions or the way in which they are constructed in the wrong manner. I am in no way attacking you or your beliefs and I value your opinion. I look forward from hearing from you soon! Noah Echols Dear Noah - I love that name - my #10 child is Noah and of course Noah was a preacher of righteousness!! If you would crack the Bible and READ IT - you might find it a little harsh (by your standard) - of a truth, the consequences of unrelenting allegiance to a filthy manner of life and a determination to rebel against your God is HELL. Noah - I have to ask - do you find hell (where the worm that eats on you NEVER dies - mental torment for ever and ever - and the fire is NEVER quenched - you have flames coming out of your eye sockets and the smoke of your torment ascendeth up for ever and ever in the presence of the Holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb of God) to be harsh? The Lord Jesus Christ said - NOW READ THESE WORDS LIKE YOU MEAN IT NOAH - each one has a meaning and you should consider the words distinctly!! I say - the Lord Jesus Christ said: Lu 9:23And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. You need to read the sermon of the Lord Jesus Christ - John 14, 15 & 16 and his prayer at 17. READ THE WORDS! The Lord Jesus Christ DEMANDED OBEDIENCE! Oh - and by the way - all of those references and discussion are from the New Testament! We love the New Testament if is FULL of goodness! The importance of the Old Testament is vital to this discussion however, because of the following reasons: 1. The Lord Jesus Christ talks A LOT about the Old Testament!! 2. ALL of the apostles and ALL the writers of the New Testament talk A LOT about the Old Testament and give warning to every person that they had better NEVER FORGET Sodom and NEVER FORGET Noah and the destruction of the antediluvian world and NEVER FORGET the lessons of the Old Testament!! HOW are you going to know the lessons of the Old Testament unless you saturate yourself in all those words? ALL THE WORDS!! 3. This NEW Testament passage gives you a reason to know the Old Testament and to live in it and is an example of how the New Testament writers talk incessantly about the Old Testament details warning EVERY STEP OF THE WAY YOU OBEY and you do it happily or you get wrath!!THAT Noah is harsh if you want to see it that way of course of a truth, it gives evidence against your soul!!Check it out:1 Corinthians 10:1 ¶Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;2And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;3And did all eat the same spiritual meat;4And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.5But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.6 ¶Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.7Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.8Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.9Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.10Neither murmurye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.11Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.Did you read those words Noah? Did you see verse 4 - the Lord Jesus Christ WAS WITH THEM! The same Christ that was born into this world and was doing that talking in the New Testament!!And verse 11 says plainly - ALL these things happened for OUR example!!! How are you going to know the mind of God without all that knowledge?? GET OVER IT NOAH and the rest of this Doomed and Damned generation of rebels against your God with NO CAUSE!! 4. And these New Testament words - Romans 15:4For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope. 5. I will stop this list right here because if the 4 previous reasons are not good for your and you do not heed them, more words will not help! I would recommend that you read the short and excellent book of Jude - he was one of the brothers of the Lord Jesus Christ! He talks almost exclusively about the events found in the Old Testament! Noah - I have to tell you - every time someone asks this VERY SAME question that you asked, I KNOW for certain that I am dealing with a Bible ignorant person! It is in your best interest to NOT BE Bible ignorant! It is against your interest to be Bible ignorant! You say that our web page is sarcastic and rude! For 17 years we have lived on the mean streets of Doomed america - a nation of rebels that are the most hateful people that you can imagine! From the so-called Christiansto the aggressive, militant fags, it is hateful and mean and vicious, lying, violent and evil! I could multiply words to express this - but it is the very picture of the rebels that lived in the Bible days! There is NOTHING NEW under the sun. You are either a child of God, and you give evidence that you are by your words and your deeds! And you have tokens - that is objective data that is easy to observe - e.g. the world hates you! Does the world hate us Noah? Don’t lie about that! OR - you are of your father the devil - and HIS lust will you do - he is a liar and a murderer, he is an inventor of evil things - and his seed is all that they are his minions, his messengers in this earth. So they have ONLY HIS shtick and we are warned in the scriptures about what that is - and that Satan is a roaring lion and he walks about seeking which of the servants of God he may devour, and we are instruct to resist him! If you think we are sarcastic - how about you just get over there and read the words that Elijah used on the prophets of Baal where he taunted them and mocked them about yelling louder because their god is on vacation or sleeping or just cant hear them. We deal with you on your level! You wrote an email with questions, you left off the sarcasm, so I left off the sarcasm. Let me leave this with your comment on a difference in behavior - oh my goodness - you must be kidding! Okay - let me help you with that: We tell you the truth - they have lies. We OBEY the laws of God and man - they make it their vocation to NOT do that - they are instead workers of iniquity! We are peaceful, and we are for peace, but as the scripture saith, when we speak, they are for war! Our words are the very law of kindness and they are life to them that will live in the words - they have death in their pot!-Again I must point out to you Noah - if you would bother to read the scriptures and seek after your God, you would not speak so foolishly! If the day comes that you will seek after your God, and you will search the scriptures daily and God in his mercy would grant you the gift of repentance, and you by and by find and realize that your words here are words that condemn you, and you see that you have contended with the servants of the Lord of Hosts, and you have a terror in your heart over that - don’t worry about that we would NEVER hold it against any little servant of God! Elevate the dialogue Noah - about the time you see a Tax Dodgers/Tax Cheaters/Embezzlers/White Collar Crime PRIDE parade, then you should look for us there with words that tell you to put away your lying sin and STOP cheating on your taxes and so on. Everyone knows they have no business doing that - their moral sins and deeds are where this nation has gone completely stark raving mad with sophistical words to justify their FILTHY manner of life let me list a few of the major filth-speak that this nation uses to justify their sins and get the whole country on board: 1. If you dont have something nice to say, don’t say anything at all! Then you begin the decide what nice looks like, thus kicking the standard set by your God to the curb!! Check out this New Testament verse Heb 3:13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. OBEY! 2. Love your neighbor (say that screaming at the top of your lungs)! Then you begin to pervert the standard SET BY YOUR GOD of what loving your neighbor looks like! HIS standard is - rebuke your neighbor - WARN THEM with plain words that their sin will take them to hell! This life is a vapor - GONE in the twinkling of an eye - eternity where you sit in hell goes on FOR EVER!! 3. My body! My womb! Get your laws off of my womb! Blah, blah, BARF!! SHUT UP - thou shalt NOT KILL! 4. You cannot legislate morals! YOU LIARS!! Where to begin with that lie! Well the Lord Jesus Christ, when he met with Moses in the Mount did just exactly that! It is called the 10 commandments and all the rest of the commandments! READ THE BIBLE NOAH - the answers to all these truly silly question are found there! Read Romans 7 about that sinning after conversion question! It is not possible to please God in this flesh - but if you serve God you WILL strive against sin and it will NOT be your vocation and you will NEVER use any sin of any other person to justify yourself - you will KNOW the standards of God and you will NOT presumptuously sin as your way of life! You will NOT justify your sins, etc. You have work to do, and I hope that you do it! I answered you fully and spent this time because I believe the record that God gave of us Son and I believe the record that God left us - the more sure word of prophecy! 2Co 5:11Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences. Heb 12:29For our God is a consuming fire. Thanks for writing. Shirley L Phelps-Roper

Whenever You Think About Our Picket - Or Even A Missed Picket - You Think About The Doctrine Of God's Hatred ... Sweet!

Dear Shirley, How often do you actually show up at places you say you will be? I’ve looked for you at several in Ohio and you were not there and followed up another half-dozen where you said you would be and you were not. I’d appreciate a list of actual appearances in the last few months, as opposed to scheduled ones. Thanks, Mike Sangiacomo, Plain Dealer newspaper, Cleveland Dear Angry Michael - Why do you write now? Since when did you give a care about such matters as the comings and goings of the servants of the Living God? We have been in and out of Ohio over the 17 years of our Street Ministry - and where were you? Now - we run to and fro - in case you didn’t notice there are a LOT of dead soldiers - fire fighters - bitter bikers, children, etc. - all OVER Doomed america! We are getting where we are able! With the national landscape continually moving - so are we! NOTE THIS goodness - every time that you looked for us - you had the FACT that america is Doomed on your mind and you had the doctrine of the hatred of God - God hates fags - and God hates fag enablers - I say you had the doctrine of God’s hatred on your mind! So in fact, we WERE there! As for where we finally land - we are making upward to 4 road trips per week now on average - we will be in Ohio at the exact moment that the Holy Spirit sends us there, and that really is the only answer for you! Meanwhile, you might want to step away from the angry table and remember that YOU have a never-dying soul and YOU will stand ALONE before your God in that great and terrible Day of Judgment that is now on the horizon and explain to your God exactly what you did with the resources that HE gave you - that HE put into your hands and why you did NOT USE THOSE RESOURCES to provoke your fellow countrymen to OBEY the commandments of the Lord their God - and to the contrary, why you found it necessary to write some kind of goofy email to his people that shows your ass! You not only would not speak plainly to strengthen our hand in this job - or to stand in the gap or make up the hedge for the Lord Thy God - but you want to get contentious with us about our schedule? Get over it, misguided Michael - the Plain Dealer has NO reason to exist except to sing the praises of the Lord your God - and the scripture says that your God is KNOWN by the judgments that he executes!! So each time the Lord Thy God cut off some Doomed american rebel in Iraq - you had a chance to write a full spread about why God did that - to cause every reader that you could reach to KNOW the abominations of this filthy nation that has brought the condign wrath of God upon their heads - you did NOT do that! That is YOUR rebellion, and that is YOUR bad! Meanwhile, since you are so interested, be sure and read every single word on web sites conveniently linked for you in the margin of this blog. Oh - and perhaps you might CRACK a Bible so you know what it is that you have been doing that is going to land you in hell!! Stay tuned! Thanks for writing. Shirley L Phelps-Roper

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