I am wanting to ask a sincere question of you… Did the Lord Our God not promise us that he would never gain destroy the world after the Great Flood? I have read the Bible many times over, and I KNOW that the olive branch was his promise to us. I would very much like to understand why it is that you say the devastations that are occurring in this world now, are because God is destroying a Nation that is sinful. I am NOT instigating, or in any way trying to provoke. I am simply wanting to know if you will please explain to me how a promise of not destroying the world again after The Flood, becomes a promise to destroy it.
Jessica, Ph. D., D.A.
Thank you for your e-mail to Westboro Baptist Church. Your e-mail (with the accompanying credentials (I did not know they gave a PhD in “Doomed American” studies; although e-mail is an anonymous media)) is the poster child for this verse: 2Ti 3:7 “Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.” And reminds me of Daniel 12:4: “But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.” (But not a clue about the truth of God in the earth).
The facts and the law of this issue are found at Genesis Chapter 9 here:
“8 ¶ And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying, 9 And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you; 10 And with every living creature that is with you, of the fowl, of the cattle, and of every beast of the earth with you; from all that go out of the ark, to every beast of the earth. 11 And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth. 12 ¶ And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations: 13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth. 14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud: 15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh. 16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth. 17 And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth.”
It is important to note what it says, which is that he would not destroy the entire earth with a flood as he had done on this occasion of The Great Flood (save 8, and one of them was a reprobate named Ham, who was cursed by God for his sodomitical practices. See Genesis 9:22-27).
As to the olive branch, that is from Genesis Chapter 8, and reads:
“10 And he stayed yet other seven days; and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark; 11 And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf pluckt off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth.” Note that the olive leaf (or branch) is extended to those in the Ark. Hebrews 11:7: “By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.”
The Prince of Peace extends his peace to those whom he will and withholds it from those whom he will withhold it. He is the sovereign. His peace is a fruit of his mercy, which he bestows upon his own. See, e.g., Romans 9: “15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. 17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. 18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.” John 14: “25 ¶ These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. 27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.”
Isa 48:22 “There is no peace, saith the LORD, unto the wicked.”
As to that issue of whether the Lord will destroy the world again after the Great Flood, the Holy Spirit has clearly revealed that he will, and on this second occasion it will be by fire. See, for example, 2 Peter 3: “10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 ¶ Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
My favorite verse of “Amazing Grace” by John Newton is this one: “The earth shall soon dissolve like snow, The sun forbear to shine; But God, who call’d me here below, Will be forever mine.”
After all, at the Revelation of the Lord Jesus Christ, we find this condition of things: “And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.” (Revelation 21:1, et seq.)
And as to whether God will destroy a nation that is sinful, the Bible teaches that he has and he will. For example, the 10 northern tribes were specifically destroyed because of their sin, as told in 2 Kings Chapter 17: ” 1 ¶ In the twelfth year of Ahaz king of Judah began Hoshea the son of Elah to reign in Samaria over Israel nine years. 2 And he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD, but not as the kings of Israel that were before him. 3 Against him came up Shalmaneser king of Assyria; and Hoshea became his servant, and gave him presents. 4 And the king of Assyria found conspiracy in Hoshea: for he had sent messengers to So king of Egypt, and brought no present to the king of Assyria, as he had done year by year: therefore the king of Assyria shut him up, and bound him in prison. 5 Then the king of Assyria came up throughout all the land, and went up to Samaria, and besieged it three years. 6 In the ninth year of Hoshea the king of Assyria took Samaria, and carried Israel away into Assyria, and placed them in Halah and in Habor by the river of Gozan, and in the cities of the Medes. 7 ¶ For so it was, that the children of Israel had sinned against the LORD their God, which had brought them up out of the land of Egypt, from under the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt, and had feared other gods, 8 And walked in the statutes of the heathen, whom the LORD cast out from before the children of Israel, and of the kings of Israel, which they had made. 9 And the children of Israel did secretly those things that were not right against the LORD their God, and they built them high places in all their cities, from the tower of the watchmen to the fenced city. 10 And they set them up images and groves in every high hill, and under every green tree: 11 And there they burnt incense in all the high places, as did the heathen whom the LORD carried away before them; and wrought wicked things to provoke the LORD to anger:
12 For they served idols, whereof the LORD had said unto them, Ye shall not do this thing.
13 Yet the LORD testified against Israel, and against Judah, by all the prophets, and by all the seers, saying, Turn ye from your evil ways, and keep my commandments and my statutes, according to all the law which I commanded your fathers, and which I sent to you by my servants the prophets. 14 Notwithstanding they would not hear, but hardened their necks, like to the neck of their fathers, that did not believe in the LORD their God. 15 And they rejected his statutes, and his covenant that he made with their fathers, and his testimonies which he testified against them; and they followed vanity, and became vain, and went after the heathen that were round about them, concerning whom the LORD had charged them, that they should not do like them.
16 And they left all the commandments of the LORD their God, and made them molten images, even two calves, and made a grove, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served Baal. 17 And they caused their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire, and used divination and enchantments, and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger. 18 Therefore the LORD was very angry with Israel, and removed them out of his sight: there was none left but the tribe of Judah only.
The five nation-states referred to as Sodom and Gomorrah were annihilated by holocaust from heaven as illustrated in Genesis Chapter 19. The tribe of Benjamin was severely punished to the brink of total elimination from the earth as illustrated in Judges Chapters 19-21. On both occasions the great sins that brought them there is the sin of today: societies that had made faggots acceptable and respectable. In 2004 the conscience of this nation, the U.S. Supreme Court, ordered that this nation must respect fags in the case styled: Lawrence v. Texas.
And, he has promised the same fate of Sodomites to all those that should thereafter live ungodly in Jude 7: “Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire” and 2 Peter 2:6: “And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly.”
And, again, specifically dealing with the nation of Judah (2 southern tribes of Israel), God says on three separate occasions that he will avenge himself upon them for their sin. We all know about the unprecedented destruction of those people by the cruel Babylonians. So that these rhetorical questions are answered with a furious, “YES”: Jer 5:9 “Shall I not visit for these things? saith the LORD: and shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this?” Jer 5:29 “Shall I not visit for these things? saith the LORD: shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this?” Jer 9:9 “Shall I not visit them for these things? saith the LORD: shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this?”
Isa 60:12: “For the nation and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish; yea, those nations shall be utterly wasted.”
Another clear example is found in the Bible when you go with Jeremiah to the Potters House in Chapter 18:
“1 ¶ The word which came to Jeremiah from the LORD, saying, 2 Arise, and go down to the potter’s house, and there I will cause thee to hear my words. 3 Then I went down to the potter’s house, and, behold, he wrought a work on the wheels.4 And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it. 5 Then the word of the LORD came to me, saying, 6 O house of Israel, cannot I do with you as this potter? saith the LORD. Behold, as the clay is in the potter’s hand, so are ye in mine hand, O house of Israel. 7 At what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, and to pull down, and to destroy it; 8 If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them. 9 And at what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it; 10 If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them. 11 ¶ Now therefore go to, speak to the men of Judah, and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, saying, Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I frame evil against you, and devise a device against you: return ye now every one from his evil way, and make your ways and your doings good. 12 And they said, There is no hope: but we will walk after our own devices, and we will every one do the imagination of his evil heart. 13 Therefore thus saith the LORD; Ask ye now among the heathen, who hath heard such things: the virgin of Israel hath done a very horrible thing. 14 Will a man leave the snow of Lebanon which cometh from the rock of the field? or shall the cold flowing waters that come from another place be forsaken? 15 Because my people hath forgotten me, they have burned incense to vanity, and they have caused them to stumble in their ways from the ancient paths, to walk in paths, in a way not cast up; 16 To make their land desolate, and a perpetual hissing; every one that passeth thereby shall be astonished, and wag his head.17 I will scatter them as with an east wind before the enemy; I will shew them the back, and not the face, in the day of their calamity.”
Finally, the shortest, clearest teaching Bible verse on this subject is Psalm 9:17: “The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.” That means 310 million filthy sodomite americans and 7 billion sodomite worldlings are on the fast track to hell. They were not all practicing fags in Sodom. Of the five million which turned to ashes in a New York minute probably a very small percentage of the population (like now) were practicing fags. They were all sodomites, however; they embraced these beasts and their filthy sex practices as an innocent, alternative lifestyle which they characterized as a “human right”; or rather their social, religious, and political leaders (they reflect the zietgeist of the population) did so to which the entire population were bound with unbreakable eternal cords. That rule of law prevails today as illustrated in Romans 1:32: “Who knowing the judgment of God [about Fags], that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.”
In fact your questions/positions are so frivolous in light of the overwhelming, clear message of the Bible I suggest to you that you have never read the Bible. If you treated the serious study of any subject in the reckless manner in which you have treated these issues you would be laughed out of any school or class or course of study. One might ask, “are they passing out PhD’s in gumball machines?”
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